Blog Response 2

Respond to the two questions in the comments section below:

What is the “New Hollywood”? Briefly discuss two economic and social factors that led to its emergence.

In “Images of Blacks in the work of Coppola, De Palma and Scorsese”, Maurizio Viano argues Scorsese represents the racism of the Italian-American community in order to achieve an “expressionist realism”, which we can define as a strategy whereby the director, by portraying the racist beliefs and prejudices of his characters may examine and “exorcise” his own. Outside of the examples provided by Viano, in what ways does a discourse on racism and prejudice emerge in Scorsese’s Mean Streets? How does Scorsese connect these issues to the conflicts within the main protagonist, Charlie (i.e. his attempt to transition from youth to adulthood)?

15 Comments:

  1. Kyle said...
    1.
    The “New Hollywood” refers to a film style that came about in the 1960’s and 70’s that used more realistic storylines and borrowed cinematic techniques from the French New Wave to appeal to a wider (younger) audience.

    One contributing factor that led to this formation was the liberal social climate following the Civil Rights Movement of the late 50 and 60’s. Average people were drawn into politics and headline news stories and wanted to see films that dealt with the realities of American life. They were also interested in hearing points of view different from what the traditional media presented to them.

    Another factor was the popularity of television. With color television and an ever-growing variety of shows, consumers could be entertained at home. The “New Hollywood” movement created films shot on location with improved sound and visual effects to bring customers back into the theaters.


    2.
    An example of prejudice that occurs in “Mean Streets” occurs when Charlie walks into Tony’s bar and sees a Jewish girl (or supposedly Jewish). Charlie asked who she is and Tony replies that she is Jewish and is in the bar with a different guy every night. “You know how they are,” Tony says.

    This is an example not only of prejudice the characters show toward someone of a different ethnic background, but also toward women. In this scene Charlie attempts to claim her as his own to exert his ego simply to show up the girl’s boyfriend. To him, her race and gender make her an object that can be used to make him look like a bigger man.
    ash said...
    1. The "New Hollywood" is a term given to the era of movies that were made by new directors and writers who made movies that targeted "real" life people and stories that seemed more down to earth.
    Two things brought this change on too Hollywood and one of them was TV. Being so convenient and ever changing TV made it pointless to go out and spend money on a movie when you could just watch a show at home. Hollywood saw this as a threat and started to make changes with their movies such as better more "real" stories. Another issue that cause the "New Hollywood" was the Paramount case. Before this case studios owned there own theaters and decided what movies played in them, thus controlling their own future after the case this was banned and now theaters were free to play movies produced by any studio, or a movie produced by an independent producer thus making the studios compete against each other and changed the way films were made.

    2. In the film Mean Streets When Micheal was showing off his girlfriend to some guy Tony comes over and tells him he saw her kissing a black person. This disgusted Micheal and after making a comment and wiping his lips he seems to forget about the girl after he spent time bragging about her to a buddy. By showing his disgust about kissing a black man he portrays himself as a racist and no better then any of the people he deals with like Johnny boy.
    Unknown said...
    The New Hollywood was a style of filmmaking that came about in the mid-60’s and lasted until the early 80's. New Hollywood films were full of energy, sex, and, since the directors were typically young themselves, geared toward a younger crowd. The New Hollywood was brought about partially because film studios didn't know what the younger "baby boomer" audience wanted. They saw the rising popularity in foreign films, so they decided to hire a bunch of young filmmakers and gave them free reign to make what they wanted. Another major part of New Hollywood was the acknowledgement and presentation of conflicting social racial issues, which aligned well with the emergence of the new young minority filmmakers. It is important to note that New Hollywood productions were still studio-funded productions and not independent films.

    Scorsese uses racism quite obviously in Mean Streets, and attacks a variety of racial and social groups. He makes an indirect attack on the gay community with the scene where they are fleeing the bar and the gay guys are riding in the car. While it seems that Charlie's crew are OK with the guys (they did let them in the car), the fact that Scorsese had bystanders yelling and making prejudicial comments showed a sort of passive-aggressive feeling. There were also a few openly racial scenes, most notably the scene where Teresa is talking down the African American cleaning lady. It is interesting that Charlie apologizes to the lady, showing a sort of maturity in his character.
    Chloe said...
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    Chloe said...
    1. New Hollywood was a (roughly) 20 year period that some people refer to as "The American New Wave." The biggest change in American New Hollywood films from old Holly films were the way the films were produced and the selling point, desire, and pull to get the audience in the theater. Pre-New Hollywood filsm relied on spectacle to lure audiences. However, this did not capture people well and a new group of young directors and writers (Scorcese included) went to Hollywood to create films that better related to audiences. Film movements like French New Wave and other European/Art films were doing better than American-made studio films. They reached the youth population far better than the usual studio-controlled spectacle that appeared on American screens. Also, New Hollywood filmmakers became much more interested in realism. Realism, with its emphasis on location-shooting and believable, realistic plots and settings (unlike hero-epics and musicals) was better at communicating with the audience. People wanted relatable films and European film forms were providing a foundation and fan base for New Hollywood filmmakers to achieve this.

    2. Scorcese uses himself and the prejudices encoded as a 3rd generation Italian-American as a model for Charlie in Mean Streets. In his films, he assaults everyone with the topic of racism and according to Viano, "no one leaves unscathed." Charlie, under the guise of Scorcese, admits openly about his "duty" (as Viano asserts) "to fear a confrontation with blacks in accordance with a preconstituted script (193.) Scorcese also implicates the audience with his discussion of race by the way he places the Italian-Americans (white) and African-Americans (black) on the screen with each other. Scorcese is subjective about his placement of racism and racist attitudes in his characters. He does not ever deny these placements nor the decision to use them. The racism seems like second nature to Charlie, although he does consciously acknowledge it. Charlie, like Scorcese, realizes it is part of his "duty" as an Italiann-American.
    Will's File said...
    #1 In a fashion that even Cecil B. de Mille might have appreciated, the legend has it that the "New Hollywood" (that would eventually produce the likes of Coppola, Spielberg, Lucas and Scorcese)- arose, phoenix-like out of the ashes of the moribund,studio system of "Old Hollywood'. It makes for the kind of historically significant "handing down of the reins of power" from one generation to the next happy ending that Hollywood itself seems to love. And, of course, nothing could be further from the truth. As Spielberg himself puts it: "It was not like the older generation volunteered the baton. The younger generation had to wrest it away from them." As Lord Acton once wrote: "Revolutions are not coloured in rosewater." And in Hollywoaod, the revolution that brought the regime change to Tinsel Town was nothing short of an epic bloodbath. By the 1960's the studios themselves had created a rod for their own back and contributed greatly to their own eventual decline and demise by producing such financially disastrous spectacles such as CAMELOT, DOCTOR DOOLITTLE, and most infamously, CLEOPATRA. So, by the time the first creative shots were being lobbied by the patriots of the New Hollywood revolution, the studio executrives were already facing the proverbial wall, hands raised in submission. and while Hollywood has almost always managed to keep itself some five to ten years behind society's learning curve, the emergence of New Hollywood came at a time when the country itself was in a state of often times violent social upheaval and unrest.

    #2 In his essay, Maurizo Viano limits the discussion of the roles Blacks play in the Scorcese film - MEAN STREETS to the will they/won't they interplay between protagonist and Scorcese alter-ego Charlie and the exotic dancer/taboo object of desire Diane. I would call attention to Scorcese's use of sarcastic humor in calling attention to Italian American bias against African Americans. I refer tot he scene in which Charlie's retaraunt owner friend - Tony - decides to "break the balls" of another patron (Michael) by telling him that he has seen the girl Michael plans to marry openly kissing a black man in public. Apparently, in the world of MEAN STREETS, this type of malicious, wholly unfounded rumor is more than enough to destroy any future relationship possibilities. We see confirmation of this, and a glimpse into how deep seated these predjudices are when Michael almost sub conciously wipes his own lips in disgust. We see another example of how racist beliefs are ingrained into the Italian-American psyche when a previously sympathetic character bursts into a spontaneous and virulent display of racial epithets directed at a worker in a Chinese restaraunt.
    AZ said...
    THe term "mew Hollywood" or its equivalent "American New Wave" is the term that describes a time in Cinematic history that describes group of young directors and the works that were accomplished in this time frame(mid-1960's). The new young directors most of which were film school educated brought together the experience of formal education and living in time when social and cultural ideas where being challenged. These directors combined many of there own styles with styles and techniques of previous artists to create their own specific style of story telling. One factor that lead to the emergence of of this style of film making was turbulence in everyday social life. At the time there was a large civil rights movement with backlash from the government. There was also a unpopular war with large amounts of casualties. New forms of media,art,technology were being explored. With numerous new avenues to get your own story out to large audiences of people. A second factor to "New Hollywood" was the large counter culture movement that challenged the ideals that had been in place from the previous generations. In this challenging of ideals and norms "American New Wave" or "New Hollywood" combined different aspects of the counter culture to challenge in their own medium.

    #2 The character Charlie in Mean Streets has many racist, prejudice thoughts and actions throughout the movie. Many of these thoughts and actions have a choice that Charlie must take go with what he feels is right and what would look good in the eyes of the family. One so thought and action is his actions towards the African American dancer that works as a Go-Go dacncer at teh night club. Charlie shows an almost exotic interest in Daine. Asking her out to dinner and she choses the chinese restaurant. Both the chinese rest. and Diane are very foreign to Charlie and his upbringing but its almost as if he wants to explore and interact with her and her culture. But his past and family relationships will not allow for such a thing to happen. this is shown when he drives past Diane waiting for him in the cab and "what am i crazy?" then tells the driver just to take him back where he picked him up from. in this scene Scorsese is having Charlie challenge the idea of why cant he hang out with a African American girl. For Charlie it seems that he looks past many of the prejudices that come up within the story but gets caught into the prejudices that already exist as he tries to climb the ladder within the organized family.
    Elizabeth said...
    (1) The American New Wave or as many call it, New Hollywood was a great period in popular culture ushering in many new artistic developments. The era of New Hollywood occurred from the mid 1960s to the very early 1980s; several filmmakers seemed to come of age and create a more in depth Hollywood. The film industry had to do something since TV was now intimidating the movie business with its convenience of being in America’s homes. With this new threat, many directors and film companies decided to change what movies were about and how they were made. Movies (the plots) became sensible and practical, more realistic and relatable for the consuming public. And with the stories changing, directors began filming on location (smaller cameras and less equipment). Social factors of the time were highly analyzed and brought into the films; the Civil Rights movement was a major factor, along with rock n’ roll and the sexual freedom being expressed by many.

    (2) The character of Charlie in Martin Scorsese’s Mean Streets deals with several situations dealing with either his or his friend’s racism and prejudices. There are many examples throughout the movie and do not play on any one particular race or gender. One of Charlie’s friends is boasting about kissing a young woman when a fellow friend says that he saw her kissing an African American man. This friend of Charlie’s finds this disgusting and soon drops the subject, seemingly hoping that no one brings it up again. Then after the shooting in the bar, Charlie and company find themselves with a pair of gay men; when trying to escape in a car one of the gay men shouts out to people on the street. The reactions by those people on the street include many demining comments about gays; and eventually Charlie and his friends throw the gay pair out of the car. Then there is the scene where Teresa and Charlie are leaving a hotel room and while waiting for the elevator, Teresa speaks rather rudely to the African American cleaning woman. Charlie in response apologizes for her remarks as he sees that the woman is just trying to do her job.
    Catherine Eller said...
    1) New Hollywood is when the Hollywood notices the decline in their industry and tries to change the way they makes films to get their industry back up. TV emerges in that period and became popular with the news and reality. Hollywood decided to change the style in filmmaking and attracts the audience with the TV. They adjusted their films to fit on the screen of TV so people can continue enjoy films.

    The filmmaking style changed from stories to reality, action, violence, sex, and language. The cineamic techniques also changed to keep the audience interests in the films, instead of old fashioned way of assuming what happens next before seeing what happens next. The timeline changed, the shots changed, almost everything changed in filmmaking. People saw this new and huge changes in filmmaking and wants to see what is the new. They dont want to see old, they want to see the new. Hollywood has news to show, no more oldies.

    2) In Mean Streets, there are obvious plenty of racism going on. The dancer at Tony's bar is a black woman. Charlie has a thing going on with her in his fanasty. He stopped himself just because she is black. The viewers hears his voice while the camera set to see him staring, supposedly at the dancer, saying "She is good looking. But she is black." This is obviously a racism against black woman. This relates to the scene at the hotel where Teresa insulted the black housekeeper about using her hands to clean up the room. Those two scenes are the most obvious racism against the black. Scorsese cant seem to stop himself from being a racist through Charlie. There are other characters that appaers racists too. For example, jewish girl at the bar and Tony explained how she is there every night with different men. Racism going on everywhere in the world and even in the films.
    David R. Cobbins said...
    New Hollywood is the post-classical Hollywood era. It’s often referred to as the "American New Wave”, similar to that of the “French New Wave”. The era took place between mid-1960’s and 1982. In these years a new generation of young filmmakers came to prominence in America, and drastically changed the kinds of films that were being made. Two economic factors that caused its emergence was the invention of the television, and also the ‘Paramount case’ which changed the way studios could distribute films. These two issues caused the studios to lose massive amounts of money. Two social issues include, but aren’t limited t, young people stopped going to the movies, and the movies being made didn’t reach out to, and express the changing cultural aspects of America.
    Prejudice in Mean Streets, in part, helps drive the plot along, and sometimes it works just as comment on the community. An example of a comment on racism is when Michael is told that the woman he is currently seeing was kissing a black man under a bridge in New Jersey. In turn we see Michael respond offended and disgusted. This reverts back to the Maurizio Viano article in which it stated that Scrosese was trying to express the sexual fear of black men that exists in almost all white men even they don’t themselves believe it’s true. Racism isn’t the only prejudice show cased in Mean Streets. An example of a prejudice that drives the plot is Teresa’s condition. Teresa suffers from epilepsy, but despite that fact wants to move out on her own. Charlie’s uncle refuses to accept the idea that her epilepsy is chronic neurological disorder, but believes she’s “crazy”, due to this Charlie keeps their relationship secret. Charlie respects his uncle and needs him to get the restaurant uptown; this interaction between the three drives the plot.
    Charlie is trying to be a decent person; he’s trying to outgrow the prejudice in his community. Him outgrowing, rising above, and questioning these idea’s is part of his transition from childhood to adulthood. His goal throughout the whole movie is to move beyond the childhood phase and situation he currently finds himself in.
    Dwyatt said...
    1. The "New Hollywood" was a time in the movie industry where there was a major change in how directors went about making movies. The directors took more chances and tried things they've never tried before in movies. The reason for this change in the stlye of movie making had to do with the decline in profit movie's were making in the late 60's. Another reason for the change is due to a new younger gerneration as well as foreign directors directing movie's durring the "New Hollywood" era.

    2. An example of how Charlie display's racism in the movie "Mean Streets" is when he's in the exotic night club with his friends early in the movie and he has his eye on an attractive women but, she's African-American, or as Charlie said, "a black girl." We no this is a problem because Carlie is thinking to himself that she's such a pretty women but it could never be anyway, simply because of her race.
    amyo said...
    1) The New Hollywood refers to a change in the way movies were made between the 1960s to the 1980s. Production moved away from the earlier classical style of movie making to the new wave, utilizing non-actors, incomplete narratives, and on-location filming. The emergence of the New Hollywood can be attributed to introduction of the television, as well as the changing times following and during the Civil Rights Movement.

    2) Racism and Prejudice emerge several times throughout the movie MEAN STREETS. The main example is seen in the character of Diane, a dance at the bar. When she is first introduced to the audience, the main character Charlie thinks the she is pretty but follows that thought with "but she's Black". This shows some of the inner conflict going on with in the main character over race relations. The acknowledgement of her beauty shows Charlie's attraction to her and something that may not have even been considered a generation earlier. However, the following thought of "but she's Black" delineates the meaning of the previous comment, implying both that Black is something that doesn't equal pretty as well as the futility in his attraction. This seems typical of the ambivalence seen among third generation Italian-American as described in the lecture as "Get and education, but don't change". Charlie seems aware of racism, but unwilling to change his use of it.
    Steve said...
    The new hollywood was a new type of film in the post ww2 era that introduced a more realistic feeling movie by things like longer shots and different camera placements. The emergence of the affordable television set forced hollywood to make movies that were more exciting and realistic, in order to keep the American public going to the movies. Times were changing and the movie industry had to make sure that they didn't get passed up and forgotten.

    Mean Streets is filled with racist remarks and prejudice, but the part that stood out most to me is the scene with the homosexual man in the backseat of the car. When Charlie first found out that he was gay he didn't seem to care that much, but when the gay man started making a scene, and making it known that he was gay to the outsiders walking on the street, Charlie and his friend got embarrassed and didn't want to be seen transporting a gay man. The didn't want people thinking that they're gay also. This negative prejudice of gays is humerous at the time, but when you analyze the way Charlie and his friend react by kicking him out of the car, the viewer can see how immature Charlie really is. I think that is what Scorsese was going for in this scene.
    S. Greene said...
    John Eagan

    1) The "New Hollywood" was born in the late 1960's, and the 1970's,setting Classical Hollywood on its ear, and starting a revolutionary renewal in
    American film that boasted such directing stars as Steven Spielburg (Jaws), George Lucas ( American Grafitti, Star Wars), Martin Scorsese (Mean Streets
    Good Fellas), Francis Coppola (The Godfather,Apocalypse Now), and more. A major economic change involved the film being financed independently of the big daddy
    companies like Warner Brothers. Sometimes, this meant much smaller budgets, but better quality. As a matter of fact, such "quality" began to phase out the"quantity" of such old time epics as ""Ben-Hur," and family films/musicals like
    "The Sound of Music." Socially, the "New Hollywood," dared to use no-names in its pictures: actors like Gene Hackman, Harvey Keitel, Robert De Niro, and actresses like Faye Dunaway, Barbara Streisand, Katharine Ross, Anne Bancroft,
    etc. This made the films more true to life as these 'ordinary' people lived,walked, and breathed normally rather than being trapped in the stuffy old scripts that "Old Hollywood" had such a difficult time letting go, in which
    people acted out static roles from film to film.


    2)Martin Scorsese's discussion on racism and prejudice in his first major film "Mean Streets," flickers then flames throughout the movie. This is most obvious in his main character Charlie Civello. The first prejudice, women, ties
    into Charlie's fear of the opposite sex as attempts to become a man. Any viewer can notice the young man's terror, for in two very explicit scenes is it made
    manifest. The first is in his friend, Tony's, bar. Getting up on stage with the black stripper, Diane, he starts to dance sexily with her. Here, he is comfortable; his friends are there to remind him that women 'service' men, and
    pose no threat. With Charlie's love for Teresa, it is majorily different. There are no pals to back him up now. He sees her as a vampire, so much that when he
    climaxes sexually with her, he 'ejaculates blood.' She is therefore stealing his manhood. He is fearful of falling in love with her, and losing his control
    over her. Therefore, he has to foully cuss at her, and treat her as a child to maintain his own fragile hold on his perceived reality.
    Black people scare Charlie. No where is this more obvious than in his treatment of Diane, the beautiful black stripper. Though he is attracted to her, he has to remind himself that 'she is black.' Immediately a curtain falls.
    However, the young man is fascinated by his own racism, and tries to date this forbidden fruit. She accepts, but in the end, Charlie does what a normal,
    youth of his age would do. He chickens out, under the unseen, but quite palpable pressure of friends, and community, who encourage his racist attitude.
    He leaves Diane out on a dirty street to fend for herself, and return home.
    David R. Cobbins said...
    The differences in the two clips presented are similar to night and day, and yet we still see the eternal battle that Lee fights within himself. The authentic representation of Black people vs. personnel economic advance, which one to chose? It’s easy to tell which one was filmed first and which one was filmed later, due to the content alone. The first clip featuring the Mars Blackmon character and Michael Jordon has obvious influences from the French New Wave era. Here we see black and white film stock being used, tons of jump cuts, non classical Hollywood camera angles, and of course Blackmon and Jordan facing the camera and talking to the audience. This is technique Lee uses quite often. Talking to the audience breaks the fourth wall, which is an invisible wall that separates the audience from what’s happening in front of them. How does this play into economic advancement vs. authentic experience? Lee chooses economic advancement here; he’s commercializing Blacks through, no pun intended, a commercial. He’s using his persona from a movie that was about the Black experience when dealing with personal relationships to sell Nike shoes. The clip from Bamboozled comes at a later point in his career. We see political references, as seen in many French New Wave Cinema, and satire pointed directly at the commercialization of Blacks to sell products. Now that Lee is in mainstream Hollywood he feels he has a lot more freedom to express himself in a more robust way. The way the clip plays out is almost like modern day take on Amos and Andy. We see Blacks acting extremely stereotypical. Spike is not only pointing his issues with the black community but issues he has with America in general. The obsession with money, cars, nice clothing, good looking model like women, etc. can be applied to Americans as a whole, not just African Americans. In the older clip Spike is stuck in the multimedia landscape of the outside trying to make it in, in the later clip he’s positioned in the inside so now he can truly, without censorship, express how he feels.

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