Blog Response 5

Respond to the following questions in the comments section below:

In "Spike Lee at the Movies" Amiri Baraka writes of Do the Right Thing:

"The killing of Rahim, attributed to the loud radio, trivialized the Black Liberation Movement in the same way that the bugged out movement for Black photos in the pizza parlor does...Spike's repeated response is that he has no answers to state, that art was, by his definition, vague, general and noncommittal yet could utilize the saleable aspects of Black consciousness as an umbilical cord of social 'relevance'."

From your viewing of the film, do you agree with Baraka's critique of Lee's "art"? Does Wahneema Lubiano's discussion of realism and essentialism (Section III) complicate and/or expand upon Baraka's reception of the film?


Read Gabriel Thompson's article "The United Nations of Brooklyn" (
The New York Times, October 21, 2007)

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/21/nyregion/thecity/21bens.html

In what ways does the multi-ethnic make-up of Bensonhurst, Brooklyn described by Thompson differ from the society envisioned in Lee's 1989 film? How is it similar? In this new context, is Lee's work still salient?

9 Comments:

  1. AZ said...
    I would have to agree with Baraka's critic of Lees' work and with the addition on Lubiano's article the critic of the film becomes even more complicated. In regards to Baraka's article i would agree that Lee's method of story telling trivializes many aspects of our culture and asks questions about our culture as Americans. The questions that are being asked have no definitive answer but seem to challenge ourselves to look at our own actions for what they are. Complicating the discussion even more there is Lubaino's article that question the standard to what is real and representative of real life. Many of the critics of the Do the Right Thing felt that it didn't represent real life,real characters or real actions. But what are real characters and not real characters? It seems that most of the critics missed the point of what Lee was trying to get across in his story.
    In the Thompson article which describes Brooklyn and its residence as of October 2007 shows what Lee depicted in Do the Right Thing. A community that is ever changing culturally, socially, ethnically and racially. Although in comparison to Do the Right Thing the neighborhood is becoming culturally more diverse than the predominant Italian American and African American residents that the movie represented. Lee's work I felt is still relevant in regards to the neighborhood where new cultures are taking residence and older resident's ways of life are changing as well.
    Unknown said...
    I more or less agree with Baraka's critique; however I would use the word "futile" instead of "trivial". Trivial has a connotation of having "little significance", which I don't think Spike was trying to convey.

    Gabriel describes a kind of multi-ethnic utopia where all cultures live together in perfect peace, which is quite a bit different from Lee's film. While Sal takes pride in the neighborhood, he still harbors certain views about the inhabitants.
    David R. Cobbins said...
    Baraka makes a valid point in that Lee uses ideas and aspects of “Black Consciousness” to sell a product. The film provided no answers to any of the real situations that supposedly inspired the story. It did trivialized the issues involved in racism and prejudice by having violence start over things as simple as a radio and photographs. Maybe this was Lee's point, to say that small issues represent bigger problems, but it can't apply to his type of story when your making an attempt to take on problems that have haunted America since it's creation. In the end there are no answers provided, again maybe this Spike's way of saying there are no real answers, however he doesn't even make an attempt to provide any answers at all. A failed attempt at answers is better than no attempt. The biggest problem is that Spike put himself into these positions. He wants a dialog on race, he wants to make his movies about race, but in the end he wants to exist outside of the dialog and uses the excuse that he's just an artist. Spike has never position himself as just an artist, and if he done so there would be no problems with his films. The 2007 Bensonhurst is much more diverse that the 1989 version. It has a lot more immigrants that just those from southern Italy, in fact the neighborhood is no longer made up of just Italians because most of them have moved away. It's similar to Lee's film in that we start to see immigrants moving into traditional one ethnicity enclaves. In Do The Right Thing we have a mostly Black neighborhood that's starting to see Latino, Korean, White, and Caribbean people move into it. Lee's work is still salient because it represents the beginning of a change.
    Will's File said...
    Baraka seems to be asking whether Spike is interested only posing questions and NOT in providing his audience with any "significant answers". Well...to paraphrase Jack's Warner's infamous quote about films sending messages - if Baraka is looking for definite answers in any man's "art" - then he should let Spike get on wih his next "joint" and consult with "Doctor" Phil! It isn't the responsibility of Mr. Lee to provide anyone with the "answers"! That's up to the film-goer themselves, isn't it? ART IS MEANT TO BE SUBJECTIVE! I fear my response to Mr Lubiano is regrettably, more of the same (quelle suprise, eh?). I mean, did we watch the same film? We weren't here to dissect a DOCUMENTARY - were we? This is...and I cannot emphasize this strongly enough - a work of fiction - a story, and most definitely NOT a social tract! Lees's film remains relevant because the narrative manages to transcend the brutally mundane realities (does everyone in class even remember the Howard Beach incident?)that Baraka and Lubiano seem to find so sorely lacking in this film. As for Thomspon and his aspersions on Spike's take on reality - well - ALL neighborhoods change, some even for the better. It's kinda like complaining that the Warner Bros. backlot doesn't even begin to do justice to the "ever-changing-culturally-socially-ethnically-racial" environs of the Lower East Side in DEAD END.
    Krystal said...
    I am on both sides of the fence, in some ways I agree or see what Baraka is saying, then again I'm in favor of Lee's position. In Lee's films, specifically in this case "Do The Right Thing" Lee doesn't offer a solution and/or answer to the problem at hand, but I don't feel that he should be criticized for it. Afterall it is a film (a form of entertainment) that does very well deal with some very serious issues, but I don't feel that it is Lee's full on responsibility to offer an answer. I feel his intentions are simply to make people aware of the various conflicts that exist giving us the choice of what to do about it? In most cases I feel that it is "common sense" when referring to the "what to do" question when encountered w/ problems such as the one in "Do the Right Thing", I don't need anyone to tell me how to respond to a problem, but I do like and appreciate how Lee brings forth light to certain issues because that is when I WAKE UP and get a dose of reality...and eventually ask the question to myself....what can I do??
    Krystal said...
    In reference to Thompson's article, I feel that when compared to Lee's film they are different because it seems as if these people from various ethnic backgrounds in Brooklyn have learned how to work together and help one another while in this particular pharmacy and neighborhood. While on the other hand in Lee's film, these minority groups used there differences as fuel to create boundaries separating themselves from one another based on their social/economic status..thus making the problem worse. But it is similar in how there is some apparent segregation involved and violence as well....done to those who aren't considered to be in the "norm" crowd. I would have to say that this context is still prominant because segregation seems to be alive even now. Now, maybe there are no signs indicating "whites or coloreds" but it still can be seen. We all have our place on this earth within the various cities and states we reside in...but if you look closely you will find that even though we are on the same ground..there are invisible boundaries laid before us....especially here in Milwaukee...which might be one of the most segregated cities within these United States.
    Steve said...
    Barack shouldn't critisize Lee for saying his art is too "vague" or "noncommittal." Lee makes really entertaining movies that have meanings that can be seen and understood by anybody watching it. I think that the film critics are looking way too far into things and realize that most film goers aren't going to tear the film apart, they're going to appreciate for what it is, and in Lee's case, that's a genuine film that expresses an issue that's going on at the time. Too say that Lee's work, in terms of art, is vague is rediculous...his films are quality works and he shouldn't be torn apart for any of the films that we have seen.

    There are many similarities to Bensonhurst, Brooklyn and the society in Do The Right Thing. The most prevalent similarity is the melting pot of all the different ethnicities in both settings. Also, both the article and the movie deal with an act of violence upon a black individual by the white man. One difference might be that the article doesn't really go into the different ethnicities not getting along (besides white and black) whereas in Do The Right Thing there is always conflict between the different ethnicities that make up the block. I think Lee's work is still salient when looking at it in terms of this article, since it seems like both neighborhoods are very similar.
    Kyle said...
    I agree with Baraka that the murder of Radio Rahim for refusing to turn off his stereo is a trivialization, but not so as far as Buggin' Out's drive to get photos of black celebrities on the wall of the pizza parlor. I think Lee is presenting a metaphor with these photos in terms of the Black Liberation Movement in that he wants black leaders and celebrities to be held in the same esteem as those in white cultures. That can be accomplished metaphorically by Malcolm X, Dr. King, and others being placed on Sal’s wall of fame.

    In Do the Right Thing the majority population of the neighborhood is African-American, where in Bensonhurst, the population is less than 1 percent black. In Thompson's article, he states that about half of the population is foreign-born, whereas the black residents of Bed-Stuy in Lee’s film where not first generation immigrants. Also, Thompson writes about the attack and murder of Yusuf Hawkins by a gang of white youths, whereas Lee describes a scene where a white bicyclist is harassed by a group of black youths. The two are similar in that they both involve a mix of cultures, and Spike uses this in a clash that makes the film relevant in the present time.
    Chloe said...
    I think that Baraka’s critique of Lee is a bit harsh. The loud radio did not seem to be the cause of Rahim’s death. The radio symbolized the struggle for power between Sal and Rahim, between black and Italian-American in the neighborhood. The assertion that radio=cause of death is the trivial part. It appears that Luniano’s is skeptical of the “realness” of Do the Right Thing. She argues that this is just a representation of African-American culture that is being accepted as real. It expands on the skepticality of the “realness” of Lee’s films, however, does not do it as harshly as Baraka does.

    The society in Lee’s film discussed that anyone not Black or Italian-American did not have a voice of their own—they simply aligned with one side or the other. However, Thompson argues that 2/3 of all families in Bensonhurst do not speak English at home, making the idea of the “one Asian family” on the block quite a joke. His statistics of non-Italian, non-African people that inhabit Bensonhurst make Lee’s film seem dated. While the tensions in the film may still exist, and the misunderstanding across cultures still causes problems today, the singularity of the problem being between blacks and whites is no longer the central issue.

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